It Was What It Was

Rob Draper & Jonathan Wilson

Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. Read more

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Episodes

The American Dream: Pelé, Cosmos + Rise & Fall of NASL | Part Four

01/20/2026 1:12:54The American Dream: Pelé, Cosmos + Rise & Fall of NASL | Part Three

01/13/2026 1:06:22 Recommended Replay: When Amorim Arrived at Man United And The Busby-Ferguson Curse

01/07/2026 59:23The American Dream: Pelé, Cosmos + Rise & Fall of NASL | Part Two

01/06/2026 1:01:27New Years Day Special Episode

01/01/2026 47:41 Show all episodes

Our take on It Was What It Was podcast

It Was What It Was with Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson explores the pivotal decisions behind Manchester United's rise to the top and how it reshaped English football. They kick off with Sir Alex Ferguson's incredible journey at Manchester United. From tough early days to securing 38 major trophies, Ferguson's story is not just about success but resilience and strategic brilliance. A first episode tha makes a promising season. It Was What It Was is a soccer podcast by Rob Draper & Jonathan Wilson.